Toshiba's been a triple-layer hybrid HD DVD / DVD system for a bring together now but it's been all until today when the DVD Forum steering committee voted to authorise the spec as part of the official HD DVD standard. The third 15GB layer bumps the total capacity of HD DVD up to 51GB matching Blu-ray's 50GB disks. Of course we wouldn't expect to see a flood of content on the new disks anytime soon what with all those shiny new double-layer players getting sold right now but it's interesting to see HD DVD step up in the one area Blu-ray was clearly superior. The continues!
Well for me at least the advantage of Blu-ray's higher capacity and higher spec in command is that ideally this format will be widely adopted once/if one format ever wins. So just like you can burn 8.7 gig discs with your dual layer DVD burner you would be able to burn 50 gig discs with you Blu-ray burner. Now this is already possible but the determine ordain continually displace in the coming years.
A stalemate this is not. A go occurs when one player is not in check but cannot legally act anywhere. The change by reversal chess metaphor here is displace probably one caused by the fifty move rule. I cognise "stalemate" sounds more sophisticated than simply "displace," but it should not be used here since usually one player has a study favor in a stalemate which is definitely not the case in this HD game.
Gotta like the idiots only thinking about how much space a hit movie takes up on a hit BD/HDDVD disc. We backup our own stuff on them too... Besides isn't ~50GB desire the end of the line for HDDVD whilst Bluray will eventually go all the way to ~200GB if not at least ~100GB...
The only reason most are just using 25-30GB is because those are made by companies that give both formats. They are just using one encode for both the Blu-Ray disc and the HD-DVD disc instead of using two seperate ones desire they should! They are not fully using the Blu-Ray potential and this hurts the Blu-Ray supporters as they are paying for HD-DVD's mistakes. I see this 51GB HD-DVD disc as a good thing even though I am a BD supporter because now the companies have NO excuse for not using the full space and specs for both as they are now both the same size.
Most Blu-ray exclusive content comes change state to 50GB movies that are encoded for both formats are around 30GBs due to HD-DVD size limitations. Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean used 75 GBs (one full 50GB disk and a 25GB disk for extra content they couldn't fit on the 50GB disk).
It sounds great for data backup but HD DVD burners are hardly even available currently. On top of that multi-layer burning is a difficult thing to do (kind of the same reason why it took so long to get dual-layer DVD-/+Rs). So who knows how long it'll be before we even see triple-layer HD DVD-R drives probably years.
I'm not so much concerned over data size but the ability of the drives to actually construe through 2 layers of media consistently and without problems. Nothing would be worse than writing a whole bunch of backup data only to find out the third layer becomes completely unreadable due to some 'problem' with the media later in its life. Even reading through one layer can be questionable but I trust it more than I believe a laser to properly construe through two layers of media. Of course. Blu-Ray ordain also add a third layer (desire it needs it) and move it's coat to 75GB with 3 layers (but comfort the 3 layer air persists). Although. I'd be surprised if Toshiba can create a player that properly reads through 3 layers to get to the fourth. So. I wouldn't expect any quad layer media any time soon.
And now Toshiba can boast of having 1 GB more capacity than Blu-ray. As far as i see it this is gonna end with the release of dual-format players coz people will be pissed off if they are made to buy the same movie again in another change. As a friend of mine says he won't buy a high-def movie until he can buy a $30 dual-format player at Walmart!
I don't think this will change surface work on current players so I doubt this will have much of an cause on the format war (aside from bragging rights). Anyways we already know the Blu-Ray camp has had a 100GB Blu-Ray disk in development (uncertainty over whether that'll work on current players too) so I doubt HD DVD will be able to amplify about having more storage for long.
Even if it doesn't work on current players that doesn't mean they won't just change the spec and copulate everyone like they did with DVD. I paid $500 for my first Pioneer DVD player.. only problem was that it didn't construe dual layer discs. When the dual layer discs started coming out I'd buy movies and then just not be able to watch them. I called Pioneer to ask them what was up after seeing tons of populate that owned the same player complaining online. Their solution? "Send the player back to us (on my dime btw) and we'll put a new control in it for $200 that'll be able to construe the new dual layered discs."NOT joking.
Ya thats a way to compete three layers of toshiba = 2 layers from sony.. times 10. 30 layers toshiba is the same thing as 20 layers from sony (hypothetically). Why didn't this morons at Toshiba alter a better system and Disks in the first place instead of adding layers (which means triple the price by the way)..
Because of backwards compatibility with DVDs and CDs. HD DVD was designed so that they could use the same laser to read all 3 disc types. At the same time they can use preexisting DVD manufacturing plants to manufacture HD DVDs because the two are very similar. Blu-ray on the other hand is not backwards compatible. Blu-ray players have to have 2 lasers. One to construe CDs and DVDs and another to read BDs. This is a result of blu-rays vastly different focal point. Using this focal inform means the lens has to be glass instead of plastic (like CD. DVD and HD DVD) because change surface the tiniest imperfection will result in disc read errors. Also using this focal inform requires the data layer to be very close to the edge of the disc requiring them to coat every disc with a scratch create coating because the discs are more fragile (a small scratch ordain rip off the data layer). This increases the costs of making each disc. In addition. BDs cannot be alter in preexisting DVD plants because the affect is too different so new manufacturing plants have to be built specifically for BD production. Sounds like Toshiba has the better product to me. Blu-ray may look better on paper but HD DVD is better in practice. It is much cheaper to create with little to no difference in quality.
This is meaningless. All Blu-Ray players can take advantage of 50GB Blu-Ray discs. How many HD-DVD players can take advantage of 51GB HD-DVD discs? I'll tell you how many: zero. Does it really count as "bragging rights" if you've just created a spec that's incompatible with all of your players?
Where has it been stated that this is incompatible with current players? I know I saw where they have said they don't experience yet but that in order to make the distinction a firmware update would definitely undergo to happen (which the players are capable of most have Ethernet the rest can update with a DVD loaded with the update).
Indeed. Anyone wonder why Toshiba are deadly silent on the affect? Surely if all that was required was a firmware update don't you think they will be shouting from the rooftops?The sad fact is nothing on the market today ordain compete these 51GB discs and the only reason they are around is to make HD DVD look like it still.
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/15/dvd-forum-approves-51gb-triple-layer-hd-dvd-spec/
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